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		<title>By: Toralf Förster</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toralf Förster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;They see &quot;win32&quot; and think, &quot;Oh, I want to be able to playback WMA and WMV and DivX so I must need these, right?&quot;
Most users probably don&#039;t think anything b/c the win32 is a default use flag for x86 desktops, isn&#039;t it ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;They see &#8220;win32&#8243; and think, &#8220;Oh, I want to be able to playback WMA and WMV and DivX so I must need these, right?&#8221;<br />
Most users probably don&#8217;t think anything b/c the win32 is a default use flag for x86 desktops, isn&#8217;t it ?</p>
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		<title>By: AS Pushkin</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AS Pushkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 05:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an issue I&#039;ve run into over the last 10 months or so. I use to be able to view dvd movies, but due to conflicting codecs, I think, any movie simply stops part way into it. I note that mplayer&#039;s log says the cracking of the key is the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an issue I&#8217;ve run into over the last 10 months or so. I use to be able to view dvd movies, but due to conflicting codecs, I think, any movie simply stops part way into it. I note that mplayer&#8217;s log says the cracking of the key is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Huemer</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander Huemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i never really got the details about the current state of the codecs packages.
on my amd64 machine i experience the following:
the win32codecs useflag of mplayer is masked for my arch, the package itself is not, it&#039;s ~.
media-libs/amd64codecs  is masked.
so, win32codecs is &quot;more&quot; available than amd64codecs on amd64, but also win32codecs cannot be pulled in by mplayer.
a little bit strange, isn&#039;t it?
so, on amd64, how do i get binary codecs? e.g. for watching an indeo video.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i never really got the details about the current state of the codecs packages.<br />
on my amd64 machine i experience the following:<br />
the win32codecs useflag of mplayer is masked for my arch, the package itself is not, it&#8217;s ~.<br />
media-libs/amd64codecs  is masked.<br />
so, win32codecs is &#8220;more&#8221; available than amd64codecs on amd64, but also win32codecs cannot be pulled in by mplayer.<br />
a little bit strange, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
so, on amd64, how do i get binary codecs? e.g. for watching an indeo video.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 22:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[er, wow, I was off ... there&#039;s more than that.  x86, amd64, ppc, alpha, osx x86 &amp; ppc.

And nobody calls them win32codecs except for us.  They just package them as essential-arch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er, wow, I was off &#8230; there&#8217;s more than that.  x86, amd64, ppc, alpha, osx x86 &amp; ppc.</p>
<p>And nobody calls them win32codecs except for us.  They just package them as essential-arch.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you mean about Xine and Real?  They&#039;re both in there.

Upstream actually already has three packs, one for x86, one for ppc and one for amd64.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean about Xine and Real?  They&#8217;re both in there.</p>
<p>Upstream actually already has three packs, one for x86, one for ppc and one for amd64.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lothian</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lothian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent idea

But please add lots of einfo explaining it

I always thought the codecs were additional ones that weren&#039;t part of ffmpeg

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent idea</p>
<p>But please add lots of einfo explaining it</p>
<p>I always thought the codecs were additional ones that weren&#8217;t part of ffmpeg</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: arseny</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-803</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arseny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, you&#039;re very right there.
What do you think of adding some short description of cases where user really need to install these codecs and where he doesn&#039;t somewhere to the fore? E.g. ebuild can be masked by default, or message can be shown after installation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re very right there.<br />
What do you think of adding some short description of cases where user really need to install these codecs and where he doesn&#8217;t somewhere to the fore? E.g. ebuild can be masked by default, or message can be shown after installation.</p>
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		<title>By: Trizt</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trizt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mind if those three packages are merged together to a mega package. I do agree that people usually won&#039;t need these, but I have encountered some media files which I have had to reencode in a 32bit environment before I can play in my 64bit environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind if those three packages are merged together to a mega package. I do agree that people usually won&#8217;t need these, but I have encountered some media files which I have had to reencode in a 32bit environment before I can play in my 64bit environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just looked and I have win32codecs installed. I looked into removing it but got the following:

$ emerge --pretend  --depclean win32codecs

Calculating dependencies... done!
  media-libs/win32codecs-20071007-r2 pulled in by:
    media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28450
    media-video/vlc-0.9.8a

&gt;&gt;&gt; No packages selected for removal by depclean

$ equery depends win32codecs
[ Searching for packages depending on win32codecs... ]
media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28450 (!bindist &amp; x86 &amp; real? media-libs/win32codecs)
                                   (!bindist&amp;x86&amp;win32codecs? media-libs/win32codecs)
media-video/vlc-0.9.8a (win32codecs? media-libs/win32codecs)

$ euse --active bindist x86 real win32codecs
x86                 [+    ]
win32codecs         [+  D ]

$ eselect profile show
Current make.profile symlink:
  default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop

Somewhere the win32codecs flag is enabled by default, but I can&#039;t find where. Any ideas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just looked and I have win32codecs installed. I looked into removing it but got the following:</p>
<p>$ emerge &#8211;pretend  &#8211;depclean win32codecs</p>
<p>Calculating dependencies&#8230; done!<br />
  media-libs/win32codecs-20071007-r2 pulled in by:<br />
    media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28450<br />
    media-video/vlc-0.9.8a</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; No packages selected for removal by depclean</p>
<p>$ equery depends win32codecs<br />
[ Searching for packages depending on win32codecs... ]<br />
media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28450 (!bindist &amp; x86 &amp; real? media-libs/win32codecs)<br />
                                   (!bindist&amp;x86&amp;win32codecs? media-libs/win32codecs)<br />
media-video/vlc-0.9.8a (win32codecs? media-libs/win32codecs)</p>
<p>$ euse &#8211;active bindist x86 real win32codecs<br />
x86                 [+    ]<br />
win32codecs         [+  D ]</p>
<p>$ eselect profile show<br />
Current make.profile symlink:<br />
  default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop</p>
<p>Somewhere the win32codecs flag is enabled by default, but I can&#8217;t find where. Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Diego E. "Flameeyes" Pettenò</title>
		<link>http://wonkabar.org/2009/05/29/binary-codecs/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diego E. "Flameeyes" Pettenò]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d suggest _against_ going toward this. First the Real binary codecs can be used in situations where the rest really cannot (64-bit xine can load 64-bit Real codecs, but not 32-bit indeo codecs!); second, win32codecs is what upstream calls most of the pack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d suggest _against_ going toward this. First the Real binary codecs can be used in situations where the rest really cannot (64-bit xine can load 64-bit Real codecs, but not 32-bit indeo codecs!); second, win32codecs is what upstream calls most of the pack.</p>
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